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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by Victor Sergienko</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Sergienko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, I believe it&#039;s the same as for ???? .NET projects.
Linking is not about build order, it&#039;s about physical usage of one project functions in another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I believe it&#8217;s the same as for ???? .NET projects.<br />
Linking is not about build order, it&#8217;s about physical usage of one project functions in another.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by Joe Lakey</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Lakey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have inherited a project with both C# and C++ projects. I understand setting dependencies and references in and between C# projects. How should references/dependencies be set between C++ projects or from a C# to a C++ project or vice versa? There seem to be several places in the Properties of a C++ project where another project can be referenced or &quot;linked.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have inherited a project with both C# and C++ projects. I understand setting dependencies and references in and between C# projects. How should references/dependencies be set between C++ projects or from a C# to a C++ project or vice versa? There seem to be several places in the Properties of a C++ project where another project can be referenced or &#8220;linked.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by Victor Sergienko</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Sergienko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, thank you for explaining.
I don&#039;t know why wasn&#039;t I able to find it in VS. Sadly, I have no Visual Studio now and can&#039;t check if it was there in 2005 version: I was sure it wasn&#039;t the thing project reference did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, thank you for explaining.<br />
I don&#8217;t know why wasn&#8217;t I able to find it in VS. Sadly, I have no Visual Studio now and can&#8217;t check if it was there in 2005 version: I was sure it wasn&#8217;t the thing project reference did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by tim</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU - you are a life saver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU &#8211; you are a life saver</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by ChuckEng - MSFT</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>ChuckEng - MSFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSBuild actually only uses the build ordering when you build a solution from the command line, or when you build in the IDE. You can set this in the IDE with the menu option &quot;Build Order...&quot; in the Project menu.

However, what MSBuild creates and uses are what we refer to as P2P&#039;s (or Project to Project references). These can be created in the IDE by right clicking the References node (C# application) and selecting &quot;Add Reference...&quot;. Go to the Projects tab, and choose the project that this project depends on. You can add multiple. This adds XML to the .csproj file that looks like:
  
    
      {EF60F047-304C-4684-9278-E8DD8C7618F8}
      Microsoft.Build.BatchBuild
    
  
This project reference allows MSBuild to make sure that the referenced project is built prior to building this project. This works on solutions or projects, in the IDE and on the command line.
Note that you can also get to the References dialog by choosing &quot;Add Reference...&quot; from the project menu with the appropriate project selected in solution explorer.

Chuck England
chuckeng@microsoft.com
Visual Studio Platform
Program Manager - MSBuild</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSBuild actually only uses the build ordering when you build a solution from the command line, or when you build in the IDE. You can set this in the IDE with the menu option &#8220;Build Order&#8230;&#8221; in the Project menu.</p>
<p>However, what MSBuild creates and uses are what we refer to as P2P&#8217;s (or Project to Project references). These can be created in the IDE by right clicking the References node (C# application) and selecting &#8220;Add Reference&#8230;&#8221;. Go to the Projects tab, and choose the project that this project depends on. You can add multiple. This adds XML to the .csproj file that looks like:</p>
<p>      {EF60F047-304C-4684-9278-E8DD8C7618F8}<br />
      Microsoft.Build.BatchBuild</p>
<p>This project reference allows MSBuild to make sure that the referenced project is built prior to building this project. This works on solutions or projects, in the IDE and on the command line.<br />
Note that you can also get to the References dialog by choosing &#8220;Add Reference&#8230;&#8221; from the project menu with the appropriate project selected in solution explorer.</p>
<p>Chuck England<br />
<a href="mailto:chuckeng@microsoft.com">chuckeng@microsoft.com</a><br />
Visual Studio Platform<br />
Program Manager &#8211; MSBuild</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally found the key. I mean:

first option: with your command, it&#039;s necessary NOT to change the setup project version. 
second option: with my command, it&#039;s necessary to change the setup project version

In both options it&#039;s necessary to change main app version.

My last question is: with the first option (your command line), I you go to add/remove programs in Control Panel, you will see always &quot;version 1.0&quot;, it doesn&#039;t update.

Do you know how to update the &quot;version&quot; that appears in add/remove programs window ?

Thanks a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally found the key. I mean:</p>
<p>first option: with your command, it&#8217;s necessary NOT to change the setup project version.<br />
second option: with my command, it&#8217;s necessary to change the setup project version</p>
<p>In both options it&#8217;s necessary to change main app version.</p>
<p>My last question is: with the first option (your command line), I you go to add/remove programs in Control Panel, you will see always &#8220;version 1.0&#8243;, it doesn&#8217;t update.</p>
<p>Do you know how to update the &#8220;version&#8221; that appears in add/remove programs window ?</p>
<p>Thanks a lot</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I change version (both exe project, and Setup project) and product code in setup project, not upgrade code. 

I try vomus, vamus, and others ... 

Do you know what I&#039;m doing wrong ? May be I don&#039;t have to change the product code and version in exe or in setup project ? (now I change both)

Thanks a lot. (may be you can pulbish your test application ?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I change version (both exe project, and Setup project) and product code in setup project, not upgrade code. </p>
<p>I try vomus, vamus, and others &#8230; </p>
<p>Do you know what I&#8217;m doing wrong ? May be I don&#8217;t have to change the product code and version in exe or in setup project ? (now I change both)</p>
<p>Thanks a lot. (may be you can pulbish your test application ?)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Victor Sergienko</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Sergienko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For now, no idea. I had some issues with msiexec, but IIRC current command corresponds to documentation and worked for me.

Are you reinstalling the same package as already installed, or did you rebuild it/update its version? &lt;a href=&quot;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367988%28VS.85%29.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;vomus&quot; doesn&#039;t reinstall the same package&lt;/a&gt;, as far as I can remember now.
This is the intended behavior.

For debugging, try adding &quot;a&quot; or something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For now, no idea. I had some issues with msiexec, but IIRC current command corresponds to documentation and worked for me.</p>
<p>Are you reinstalling the same package as already installed, or did you rebuild it/update its version? <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367988%28VS.85%29.aspx" rel="nofollow">&#8220;vomus&#8221; doesn&#8217;t reinstall the same package</a>, as far as I can remember now.<br />
This is the intended behavior.</p>
<p>For debugging, try adding &#8220;a&#8221; or something else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally find the solution, but I don&#039;t know why is this happening.

This works: c:\setup1.msi /qb
This also works: msiexec /i c:\setup1.msi /qb

BUT this doesn&#039;t work (your default command): msiexec /i c:\setup1.msi /qb REINSTALL=ALL REINSTALLMODE=vomus
It doesn&#039;t do anything.

Victor, do you know why ? Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally find the solution, but I don&#8217;t know why is this happening.</p>
<p>This works: c:\setup1.msi /qb<br />
This also works: msiexec /i c:\setup1.msi /qb</p>
<p>BUT this doesn&#8217;t work (your default command): msiexec /i c:\setup1.msi /qb REINSTALL=ALL REINSTALLMODE=vomus<br />
It doesn&#8217;t do anything.</p>
<p>Victor, do you know why ? Thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Victor Sergienko</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Sergienko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fernando.

I don&#039;t see why did you have to translate the source to VB, but whatever.

Sorry, that&#039;s not enough details for me to clearly see the problem.

Anyway, MSIEXEC needs to be run with specific arguments, run &quot;msiexec /?&quot; to see them. That might be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fernando.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why did you have to translate the source to VB, but whatever.</p>
<p>Sorry, that&#8217;s not enough details for me to clearly see the problem.</p>
<p>Anyway, MSIEXEC needs to be run with specific arguments, run &#8220;msiexec /?&#8221; to see them. That might be it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have bien trying MSIEXEC. But I haven&#039;t found any explanation. Also if I run from command line, it doesn&#039;t work.
But if I run setup.exe (bootstrapper made by Visual Studio), it installs msi fine, and update the version.
I don&#039;t know why. The setup.exe only check for NET 2.0 (it is impossible to delete this dependency).
Could you help me ? Do you have a test application (both versiones) ?

NOTE: I also check to change major version and not only minor version, but none works.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have bien trying MSIEXEC. But I haven&#8217;t found any explanation. Also if I run from command line, it doesn&#8217;t work.<br />
But if I run setup.exe (bootstrapper made by Visual Studio), it installs msi fine, and update the version.<br />
I don&#8217;t know why. The setup.exe only check for NET 2.0 (it is impossible to delete this dependency).<br />
Could you help me ? Do you have a test application (both versiones) ?</p>
<p>NOTE: I also check to change major version and not only minor version, but none works.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally I managed with RSS files, but I&#039;ve another problem. 
 
MSI starts, but nothing happen. I don&#039;t why, may be the parameters used in msiexec ????

Could you help me ? Thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally I managed with RSS files, but I&#8217;ve another problem. </p>
<p>MSI starts, but nothing happen. I don&#8217;t why, may be the parameters used in msiexec ????</p>
<p>Could you help me ? Thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by Fernando</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/self-update-library-for-net-using-wix-dotupdater/comment-page-1/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor, thanks a lot. It looks like this would be very useful. I have being 4 or 6 hours checking your source code. I had to convert it to vb.net, but after that it has begun to work.

But I don&#039;t know how to make rss files. I don&#039;t understand very well your &quot;readme.txt&quot; guide. I don&#039;t use NANT so I will write my own rss files with notepad++ or similar. 

Could you help me ? What is exactly the struture of rss files ? Is it easy to do with notepad++ ?

Thanks a lot. 

NOTE: When I finish my work, I will write you back with all of my experiencie in it. May be you want to publish my &quot;little experiencie&quot;.

THANKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor, thanks a lot. It looks like this would be very useful. I have being 4 or 6 hours checking your source code. I had to convert it to vb.net, but after that it has begun to work.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know how to make rss files. I don&#8217;t understand very well your &#8220;readme.txt&#8221; guide. I don&#8217;t use NANT so I will write my own rss files with notepad++ or similar. </p>
<p>Could you help me ? What is exactly the struture of rss files ? Is it easy to do with notepad++ ?</p>
<p>Thanks a lot. </p>
<p>NOTE: When I finish my work, I will write you back with all of my experiencie in it. May be you want to publish my &#8220;little experiencie&#8221;.</p>
<p>THANKS</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by Alexey</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, chuvak, eto genialno, spasibo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, chuvak, eto genialno, spasibo!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Project Dependencies&#8221; of Visual Studio 2008 broken in MSBuild by Alexey</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/project-dependencies-of-visual-studio-2008-broken-in-msbuild/comment-page-1/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>?????, ??? ?????????, ???????! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>?????, ??? ?????????, ???????! <img src='http://victorsergienko.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Algorithmic quiz: check a 3-braces expression by Victor Sergienko</title>
		<link>http://victorsergienko.com/algorithmic-quiz-check-braces/comment-page-1/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Sergienko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, we both solved it back in 1993 :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Algorithmic quiz: check a 3-braces expression by Leon Dubinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Dubinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve just solved an MS interview question I used to ask a while back...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Self-update library for .NET using WiX: DotUpdater by KraKot</title>
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		<dc:creator>KraKot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! I&#039;ve read u previous article about update! I have msi instuller made with WiX and need updater. I tried ClickOnce but as far as u understand, application should be published with ClickOnce, not msi to use update clickonce. In your dotupdater there is only dll file, could u tell the main stratagy u use to create this library,if its possible.Thanks a lot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I&#8217;ve read u previous article about update! I have msi instuller made with WiX and need updater. I tried ClickOnce but as far as u understand, application should be published with ClickOnce, not msi to use update clickonce. In your dotupdater there is only dll file, could u tell the main stratagy u use to create this library,if its possible.Thanks a lot!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t run .NET bootstrapper from an MSI by Boyan Kostadinov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyan Kostadinov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally got around to checking out what you are talking about with WinRar. I did get the issue you were talking about but not all the time. Anyway, WinZip Self-Extractor works but requires a separate license. As an alternative DotNetZip lib has a self extracting component and a command line tool: http://dotnetzip.codeplex.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally got around to checking out what you are talking about with WinRar. I did get the issue you were talking about but not all the time. Anyway, WinZip Self-Extractor works but requires a separate license. As an alternative DotNetZip lib has a self extracting component and a command line tool: <a href="http://dotnetzip.codeplex.com" rel="nofollow">http://dotnetzip.codeplex.com</a></p>
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